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Mao's Maoam
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CDB-Man on 19.03.2018 13:49 1q5529

Offkorn wrote:

CDB-Man wrote:
Not sure if youever were an IRC person, but if you're willing, we would much appreciate having you around on #anidb @ IRC to help us go through a lot of the tag issues that need good solutions; even if you're only a ghost and online intermittently. There are just some things better discussed live (ie via chat) than static (ie via creq or forum).


Hmm yes, because having discussions in an off-site chat room where it's impossible to participate in discussions you're not online for and which does not keep independent/searchable records of said discussions is clearly the most effective way to handle site policy decisions.

At one point in history, you were offered to IRC, and you declined, multiple times. If you do not see the value of instant chat with respect to discussion of complex issues, you must either be quite the poor communicator, or quite the stubborn person. It goes without saying that anything discussed live is ultimately documented on the site, either publicly on the Wiki, or internally on staff-only forums. If you fail to see that, you are either selectively ignorant, or trolling. In camera (latin, lit. "in a chamber", meaning in private; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_camera) sessions exist in real life for a reason.
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fresnel on 19.03.2018 22:07

CDB-Man wrote:

Offkorn wrote:

CDB-Man wrote:
Not sure if youever were an IRC person, but if you're willing, we would much appreciate having you around on #anidb @ IRC to help us go through a lot of the tag issues that need good solutions; even if you're only a ghost and online intermittently. There are just some things better discussed live (ie via chat) than static (ie via creq or forum).


Hmm yes, because having discussions in an off-site chat room where it's impossible to participate in discussions you're not online for and which does not keep independent/searchable records of said discussions is clearly the most effective way to handle site policy decisions.

At one point in history, you were offered to IRC, and you declined, multiple times. If you do not see the value of instant chat with respect to discussion of complex issues, you must either be quite the poor communicator, or quite the stubborn person. It goes without saying that anything discussed live is ultimately documented on the site, either publicly on the Wiki, or internally on staff-only forums. If you fail to see that, you are either selectively ignorant, or trolling. In camera (latin, lit. "in a chamber", meaning in private; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_camera) sessions exist in real life for a reason.

@CDB -- hmmm, you're asking a dog that ain't growing any younger to learn a relatively simple trick. Let's see if I can do it

@Offkorn -- you might argue that at least that way, a conversation between two people won't get hijacked by a third party, eh? But seriously, would you want to outlaw hallway conversation and cubicle aisle discussions at work? What would take 10 emails can be done with one call and what would take 10 calls can get done with a couple of minutes of face-to-face time. Back here, you'd fall back on creq exchanges/forum posts if you can't get folks online but that would be the preference. Put another way, if I want to make laws, I need to drag my arse to parliament, not the other way round.

Calling IRC "parliament" might be stretching it, though
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Mao's Maoam
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CDB-Man on 19.03.2018 22:15

@fresnel: my faith in you is ready.
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ymasumac on 20.03.2018 07:20

fresnel wrote:

... if I want to make laws, I need to drag my arse to parliament, not the other way round.

Calling IRC "parliament" might be stretching it, though

Really? =D

Parliament Funkadelic - Night of the Thumpasorus Peoples - Mothership Connection
Live at The Summit, Houston Texas, October 31, 1976


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Hinoe on 21.03.2018 07:35

fresnel wrote:
Put another way, if I want to make laws, I need to drag my arse to parliament, not the other way round.

Jesus Christ, not a second CDB, of all things.
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fansubfan on 28.03.2018 18:02

Glad to see how s and s care of the site.
I'm mostly a "ghost" but I'm aboard on helping the site be alive.
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Mao's Maoam
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CDB-Man on 31.03.2018 05:16

The more the merrier. We're a giant bunch of otakus with a love for anime, after all!
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zka41101959 on 27.09.2018 09:16

It’s real: you’re now a patron of AniDB!
I can only use visa and paypal
Thank this website：D
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Mao's Maoam
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CDB-Man on 28.09.2018 00:53

Thank you for contributing! Good to see that we continue to have Patron growth.
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Pimpernella in a Pink Dress
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eamonx on 01.10.2018 12:10

So, any idea when the badges are coming?
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Mao's Maoam
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CDB-Man on 01.10.2018 13:37

That is a question for worf; I'm not sure of his current progress.
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deriDIOt on 01.10.2018 13:44

i'm still strongly advocating against that. realize that if we would want to hand out such badges then we would need to link your data of anidb with your patreon data (or hand them out to whoever without ing). your patreon data that contains your real name, address, payment data etc.
as if linking such data wasn't already bad enough from a s pov (imho) it's worse for anidb as that would greatly increase appliance of gdpr responsibilities. now don't misunderstand we do what we can nad have to to our abilities and understanding of those regulations, but adding a lot of _actual_ personal data on top of anidb's pseudo personal data is just asking for trouble imho.

personally i would prefer to keep those data pools seperate for your own as our sanity and privacy.
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Pimpernella in a Pink Dress
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eamonx on 01.10.2018 16:10

Hmm, yeah that sounds reasonable. Makes sense from a privacy POV.
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Mao's Maoam
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CDB-Man on 07.10.2018 20:11

https://anidb.telechargertorrent.org/post437374

And there you have it. It took a while to put this together in the background.

For those of you that have not yet been charged on a donation post before, the next one is expected to be around Christmas (Dec 2018) or New Year's (Jan 2019).

CDB-Man wrote:

DATE: 2018-10-07 3c641z


[Patreon] Patreon er Badge on AniDB 2j496w



CDB-Man wrote:

Patreon er Badge on AniDB 22485o


With much fanfare, we can finally announce that we have created an AniDB badge on your page for our Patreon ers!


Caption: ed AniDB through the Patreon campaign

Unfortunately, we are not able to automate adding the badge to your profile page, due to GDPR considerations potentially creating more overhead than we can handle.

NOTE: You will only be awarded a badge after you have been charged at least once.

As such, if you would like the badge on your profile page:
  1. If you have not already done so, sign up to AniDB on Patreon.
  2. We only award Patreon badges after you have been charged at least once.** If you have never been charged before, wait until we make our next Donation post so that your is charged, before making the request.
  3. Visit your page: https://anidb.telechargertorrent.org/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=page
  4. Obtain your ID, which is displayed at the top of the page, next to your name. For example, on CDB's page, it says "My Page - CDB-Man (up560966)" at the top, where "560966" is my ID.
  5. Go to the Patreon website, and to your Patreon .
  6. Hit the Messaging icon at the top-right of the page to go to your inbox.
  7. Start a new message, and type "AniDB" to search for us.
  8. Send us a message that includes the name and ID to which you want the badge applied; for example: "Hi there! Please add the Patreon badge to my AniDB page. My name is CDB-Man and my ID is 560966."


When we receive your message, we will add the badge to your . Please note that since this needs to be done manually, it may take us a few days to get through everyone's requests.

**Note: If your has not been charged before (ie you're a new Patreon subscriber), we won't add the badge until you have been charged at least once. Please re-send the request after the next time we make a paid post.

Please feel free to comment below if any questions!
Link to this post on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/posts/21913719/

CDB and the Staff
This post was edited by CDB-Man (560966) on 25.10.2018 01:59.
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Pimpernella in a Pink Dress
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eamonx on 08.10.2018 09:15

Nice! Good job
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Mao's Maoam
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CDB-Man on 11.10.2018 01:56

54 badges added to date, out of a total 298. Pretty active first few days, and I expect more as people see the notification.
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engecho on 14.10.2018 17:07

Thank you.
You are doing a great job here.
This site is really did a big help for me personally back when I was just starting in anime world. A good help in time when most needed is priceless.
anidb.telechargertorrent.org has helped me. So it’s just a small favor to the benefactor.
Thank you, anidb.telechargertorrent.org. Best wishes
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Mao's Maoam
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CDB-Man on 14.10.2018 20:16

What does AniDB do differently than MAL? How do AniDB's privacy policies compare to MAL? t475w



Cross-posting from the Introductions subforum, we have a former MAL that's happily moved to AniDB. His post actually captures many of the key differences between us and MAL, so I thought it would be good to share.

Moving to AniDB - Tired of other website's bad conduct -- by gikkul
gikkul wrote:

Hello. I already had an for quite some time, but I finally decided to move here and to never go back. I'm unable to keep going with MAL after I realized the "let's take every single penny out of you" approach. This forum post may be used as future reference to anyone wondering why switch to AniDB. Here goes a quick comparison:

MAL c2qz


1) Sells your data 1i1v6p


Their is not very direct and it leaves open the possibility that they may be selling personal information to 3rd parties. Even if they don't sell, they certainly share that information as it is stated in their Policy.

2) Is always trying to sell you some crappy product 55p19


They have worked towards implementing their own built-in manga store, instead of working on building a working platform. They also keep promoting other questionable companies like crunchyroll and TOM, which also have very bad privacy practices.

3) Everything you do will be tracked 473b4p


MAL allows many 3rd parties to set cookies and track every single move you do, in order to make targeted ads or sell this information to other companies.

4) It has the Audacity to ask for hip after all of the above 1ipj


yep, after trying to profit from every move you make on their website, MAL will then ask for your money if you want to fully utilize their services and customize your profile to the full potential. In addition, you have no way to know where that money is going (probably towards promoting partnerships with other bad companies).

AniDB 3m3o6z


1) Will NEVER share your personal data 6f252x


The explicitly states that your data shall never turn into an asset to be sold.

2) It is not-for-profit 465h5a


AniDB will not try to throw in your face a bunch of crappy products from third parties. Ads are non existant. Their only concern is delivering a working DB.

3) Does not have any built-in trackers 3n1s4b


when you connect to AniDB you are not connecting simultaneously to another 20 domains you didn't know:

4) You donate if you want to help 4k3f4a


You can utilize the website to it's full potential as soon as you . The s donate to keep the service running. AniDB opens their wallet so that everyone sees what's going on and where the money is going.

BONUS - Customization Everywhere 6z5g1b


You are free to make changes to the layout of the profile to your heart's content.

Final Note 733r1v


A feature I liked from MAL is that they also have Manga and LN available, unfortunately it's something AniDB doesn't have. But that's the only thing MAL is doing better than AniDB, and just for that feature you have to abandon your data privacy and pay to get the full experience - Not worth it!

Now part of this community. Thank you for being the best Anime Database around
Gikkul.
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harkonnen on 23.12.2018 15:49

In light of recent developments on Patreon, are Anidb planning on ing some other donation platform? Yes, i understand that they get just a few cents from me personally, but as a statement i really dont like giving this censorious sjw cunts a single dime.
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Pimpernella in a Pink Dress
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eamonx on 23.12.2018 17:23

I don't think AniDB holds any political views or plays a part in politics/culture-wars in any shape or form. Just because patreon are banning people of certain political persuasions, I can't see why AniDB needs to respond to that.
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